My complaints is that I place my order 4 weeks ago still no shipment (endnpure.com states 5 to 10 dyas) & cust service does not respond to email and closed half the time. I have gas heat but use this at night to warm my bedroom, rather than raise the thermostat to heat the whole house. Also the actual cost for Endenpure gen 4 is $397 (2010 cost) refurbished 374.00 so there are models that are returned for a savings $23.00. If you need a space heater and you want to needlessly make someone rich by buying something over-priced, by all means go with the Eden. Get them sealed (don't use 'duct tape', go to a Home Depot or other type store or your htg and A/c dealer or service person and ask them what type sealing tape or other to seal the ductwork). A space heater with a linear source of infrared radiant energy in heat exchange relationship with a heat exchanger formed of copper or aluminum material. I've found that by partial disassembling them and placing a tiny drop of oil at the motor bearing points they will run for MANY years past their obsolescent date. This is the second blog I have complained on. Certainly the bedrooms are cooler, but remember it is a zone heater not meant to warm the entire area of 1250 sq ft, although the bedrooms are not cold. I will check the duct for cracks and insulation and if I want to get cheaper, I'll look into the Sun. Download PDF manuals for your EdenPURE product. However, the bitter cold in the northern states may require you to run it more. I unpacked this one and turned it on and the fan barely would run. [1], Burkett had received publicity in 2000, after making and then retracting a claim that he had been transferred to Panama for refusing "to falsify personnel records of Governor Bush",[2] and in February 2004, when he claimed to have knowledge of "scrubbing" of Bush's TexANG records. Standing by it, it doesn't really seem like it is doing much work, but, judging from our reduced power bills, it is doing exactly what these units are claimed to do. My heating bill was $30 month versus $90 in kersosene and the side effects it left.I had to install a heavier wire to carry the amp's but it worked when I needed a heavier heater(1000)I think oil companies will do anything to keep you hooked,my dad(81)spent $800 for a couple months,got a few heaters and saved a bundle. I am ashamed that, as a scientist I didn't think through the physics of Edenpure's claims. Several EdenPURE heaters have been tested and compared against Lasko electric heaters. When the heating fuel prices were high, Quartz heaters helped by heating the rooms you lived in during the day and so the funace runs less. There was an ad/coupon in the Sunday paper and then I caught the informercial on tv and felt I had found a good thing. [8], When asked about Burkett's role in the controversy, David Van Os, Burkett's lawyer, responded with the hypothesis that someone may have reconstructed documents that they believed existed in 1972 or 1973.[9]. Complain all you want the heater works well. I chose not to not knowing how high those three months would be. If not there could be an additional charge etc,. 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Yes if i needed a safe heater and had the right place for them. etc. If your 40,000 btu furnace is 80% efficient, it is releasing into your house 32,000 btus WHEN IT IS RUNNING. For the guy who said to close off the rooms and the vents in those rooms, don't you know that can damage your central unit. Divide watts by 1,000 to get kilowatts per hour. [17] Every one I talked to loves there eden pure I going to get one this weekend worth it. I just received the flyer in my mail box regarding the Eden Pure Heater and am glad that I researched this on your website. Nothing wrong with EdenPure technology, it is credible, and the heater is as good as any other similar purpose heater (I only have hard time accepting its "ancient" design). He is retired as a Lieutenant Colonel from the Texas Army National Guard . My central gas system is currently broken beyond repair, and until I can install a new system, I am heating every room with electric space heaters, and here in the cold mountains, it's running $300-$400/month (yes, I know, it's temporary madness). Bob Vila was dropped by Sears for problems with post job problems and costs associated. HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. From $15 to the cheapest electric coil and fan garage heater (which I wound NOT recommend as it actually burns oxygen in the air), to $250 fancy infrared "wood stove-looking" (electric, of course) heater. An electric heater is an electrical device that converts an electric current into heat. Bob Vila gave two types of scenarios. Received two as a gift, have to run them both simultaneously to only get very modest heat. Cubic Feet/Minute is the best measure. I don't care who it ripping me off if I am getting ripped off. Justia Patents Bill Burkett Inventions, Patents and Patent Applications. These systems the japanese use do not use ducts!!! ANY 1500 watt electric heater will give you the exact amount of heat, no matter how much, or how little you pay for it. Well it depends on what version you get. Loves them! I have not used it consistently 24 hours a day. That's common sense. If it runs 15 minutes out of every hour, it is only delivering 8,000 btus. Here are the facts - 1) Duct loss in a basement is not always a bad thing , if your basement is too cold you risk freezing pipes so if the temp. You also only heat one room so it costs over $2 per room at an 8 hour run. Common sense. Kinko's", "CBS Says It Can't Vouch for Bush Documents", "THE 2004 CAMPAIGN: MILITARY SERVICE; An Ex-Officer Now Believes Guard Memo Isn't Genuine", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bill_Burkett&oldid=1005909946, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 10 February 2021, at 01:33. Suarez Corporation Industries / Pinnacle Systems claims of a US-1000 or Gen4 having 20,000 hour bulb life contains as much truth as a politicians typical campaign speech. A well designed heater can produce far more heated CFM than a poorly designed heater. No more, no less. I have three EdenPure heaters that work wonderfully! Gas pool heaters are rated by Btu (British thermal unit) output. "CBS Guard Documents Traced to Tex. Propane gas-burning fireplaces. I could not see any savings at all. turning you main source of heat down for the whole house and just warming up the areas you are in with the Eden Pure heater. The EP does not outperform the Lasko. Heat from #2 fuel oil burning furnace will cost you $33.25 for 1 million btus, if you are paying $3.58 per gallon. And, regardless of what someone said about 1500 watts is 1500 watts and is going to heat the same area, that is not what I have read and have posted (copied and pasted from advertisements). where is the savings plus spending $900.00 on the units. Bought one of the USA made heaters last year and found the heater to be less effective than any of the other electric heaters I have used in the past. Thanks. After a few weeks it was obvious that this heater is no more efficient than one I can buy mail-order or at Costco for $ 30.00-60,00, so I sent it back at my expense. It does heat evenly. The laws of physics, which can't be changed, say they'll both do the same thing. Bob Villa uses the same deceptive wording as the company. Plus, as someone else said, there are varied types of heat. But using ANY space heater will lower your heating bill if you turn your thermostat down! The real way to reduce energy costs is to minimize the amount of energy lost by your house. In some situations yes but in some no. Lucinda from Michigan on December 03, 2012: I got my 1st heater in nov.20011 and used it for 5 months and up for the summer I got it out on oct.25 20012. Call now at (937) 773-8350 to schedule a service request today Geothermal Heat Pumps. Both heated equal areas in comparable ways, even though the Lasko only costs about $50. My heat gun is about 5 times hotter than my wife's hairdryer. As the . The problem lays, as always, in Sales and Marketing (or Greed and Misleading), that makes EdenPure a hype from the cost vs.value point of view. I'm paying $0.17 per KWH, or $2.04 for an 8 hour run per day. Someone should be going after SCI for false advertising at a minimum. They basically cut our heating bills in half and keep us nice and warm during the cold Pennsylvania winter nights. Look at fuel price comparisons, you'll see that electric heat is by far the most expensive. Directions to Burkett Heating & Cooling Authorized Dealer & Servicer We are authorized to install, repair, and maintain heating & cooling systems manufactured by some of the most renowned companies in the world. Heater vs. AC unit. It is a well-marketed $40 electric heater selling for $400 or more. Poor Rita still doesn't get that cubic feet is the area that you have to heat, in a room. I was just about to order an edenpure heater. Im just another sucker. Is the $300 Edenpure any better than a regular $20 electric space heater for any purpose? Have i used them. Again, it was ZONE heating and with a heat pump, like that was going to save me money. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. I have used these and recommended (I'm an electrician/contractor) the inexpensive ones to people who have cold spots in their larger rooms (rec rooms, basement, master bedroom) with good results, but if you think a 1500 watt 5000 BTU electric heater will keep any 1000 either square foot or cubic foot space a comfortable 70 degrees, you're dreaming, especially if the temp is below 40 degrees. Hmmm, think about it. I called the order number 1-800-458-5614 and got someone and had to request a supervisor and it took a while but they got me one on the phone. THINK ABOUT IT. I have two Eden Pures in my home and they really work. This actually makes their heater less efficient. Bill Burr announced spring and summer North American dates for his Live Nation produced 2022 arena and amphitheater tour, Bill Burr (Slight Return), visiting 23 cities from April through August including Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse on April 23, 2022. I would rather have on sweats, even with another shirt under and be comfortable with my $200. Received a reconditioned unit a week ago. To calculate an approximate heater size for an outdoor pool, follow these steps: Determine your desired pool temperature. Bobby Burkett ( Logan Huffman) is a promising quarterback for a struggling high-school football team. Types of shades include roller, Roman, blackout, and gentle pull-down cellular. That is the real savings. As well as my cats! CLAIM: With other heating sources, you'll notice you get sleepy because they are burning up oxygen. i.e. The above people are correct, you can only get so much heat out of a given amount of electricity. Are the so called experts on here thick or something. I'll bet they had a forced-air heat pump. Outputs range from 75,000 Btu to 450,000 Btu. Reverse-cycle air conditioning is 300-600% efficient, which means that it can take one unit of electrical energy and turn it into 3 to 6 times as much heating or cooling energy. This content is accurate and true to the best of the authors knowledge and is not meant to substitute for formal and individualized advice from a qualified professional. The metal shell of a mobile home is excellent for transferring heat: summer heat outside gets in easily and in the winter inside warmth convects to the outdoors with ease. Ventilation Fans. I live in a double wall 2500 sq ft log home (outside logs, insulation, inside logs). He admitted to lying to CBS about the origin of the memos when he said he got them from fellow guardsman George Conn,[6] then claiming that he received the Killian documents from a woman calling herself "Lucy Ramirez" who has never been identified. The heater might be graet but at this time I don't want to take that chance just incase it is not what BOB VILA claims to be ture. [3][4] According to the review panel, investigations by major news outlets at the time, including CBS, "revealed inconsistencies which led to questions regarding his credibility and whether his claims could be proven". That's right. What a fiasco-I will never purchase anything from Edenpure or anything associated with Bob Villa. Bigger homes and those in colder climates cost. Cellular shades can save you as much as 20% on your energy bill, too. Plugged it in and it ran for about 3 minutes and died. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 02, 2011: Bob, my main concern is saving ME money. There just selling an alternative that has good and bad points like everything else on the market. [7] Burkett said he burned the originals after faxing copies of the documents to CBS. Her hair dryer moves much more air because of its use it moves hot air faster that doesnt mean its producing less heat over all. Last night it was 24 degrees outside, and inside my living area may have been 60 in the middle of the night, but with daylight, the temp in my living area was 64. Cost between 30% and 60% less per hour of operation than wood-burning fireplaces Emit 40 times fewer emissions than wood-burning units and cost less to operate They can be turned off easily with a switch, eliminating concern about remaining embers Propane gas-burning cooktops and ovens. FACT: Of course it will. Ive been heating the entire house with 3 Edenpure heaters (only turn on one downstairs when Im there). The BTU (British Thermal Unit) was developed for flame based heat, not electricity. Mine stopped working 2nd yr. @$400 no thanks! You still need them. So all the rest is just hype , Shame on Bob Vella. Now, here we have a 1500 watt that will be plugged into the same 120 outlet as the Eden Pure, yet the Eden Pure will with its 1500 watts heat up to 1000 sq ft, and this one heats 150?? But, although our gas savings decreased our electric usage went up and we noticed about a $4 a month savings. I would not recommend this product to anyone who is trying to save money while trying to stay warm. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on October 31, 2011: John, it should remind you of every politician. Any typical portable electric space heater of 1000-2000 W will produce exactly the same amount of heat as EdenPure. While at home he is not acting as an agent of the business so his actions were not in conflict with his duty of loyalty or notification. If you read it carefully, it never really claims that the Eden Pure heater is a miraculous heat source. There is no free lunch; you can't get more energy than the source contains. My house has two geothermal units in it, one went out the week of Christmas and I couldn't get anyone in to work on it. First of all, because it is silent. Contact Burkett's Heating & The heater has been an awsome pool heater and we have had great luck with it over the years. In response to my last post, I can afford a 300.00 loss due to this scam, but what about the next person. Updating my comments on the EdenPure. The heating element inside every electric heater is . Nonetheless, they can be useful for heating small spaces, such as a small room or office cubicle. No repairs either. In fact, I had to get up and turn down the heat later as I was sweating. In other words a room measuring 6' x 7'. Since you heat all the air, nor just the first 12 inches off the floor, cubic feet measurments are required. EdenPURE claims it uses a copper coil to reduce harsh heat. I was going to purchase another EdenPure this year for the downstairs, but after seeing the .25 per hour and calculating the cost, that will not save money. The same amount of air goes through. Of course heat rises, but are any of you 8 feet tall to feel that it may be warmer at the ceiling?? The facade is added over the top without touching except for where fastened. Commercial Boilers. Publication Date: 05/25/2006 . Out of stock at this time though. Patents by Inventor Bill Burkett. I put up with very high bills until last year from what is no more than a heater that was supposed to be a heat pump, meaning it runs on heat strips. Burgers were wonderfully juicy, with the buns toasted on the flat top before assembly, so we got the full old fashioned greasy, buttery effect. A friend of mine purchased 2 after experiencing my heater. when you look at the other sales websites they state in stock but edenpures states out of stock so they have to make it to sell it. For example, an oil based electric heaterit is convection only. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 08, 2011: Don, that is why I recommend buying through Amazon so you have their return policy protection. If you were to carefully cover up where air is coming into the hair dryer and feel the front it would get much hotter maybe still not as hot as the heat gun because it has built in overload protection and it will shut off by the time it gets that hot otherwise it might hurt some people. A UNIT is $1000. Again, the EdenPure AND ANY HEATER using 1500 watts is going to cost too much to use as your only heat. And the glaring discrepancy between SCI's unsubstantiated bulb life claims and what consumers are reporting about the actual bulb life with the Edenpure products shows that SCI's claims have no basis in fact. is too low you end up, cutting in a supply grill to bring the temp.

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